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  • Do many people have experience running courses for students/particiapants of Kosher needs? NOLS did one back in 2004, but I wanted to see how many other people have experience with those particular special needs.

    We are planning to run an open-enrollment course this summer for Jewish males ages 14-18 here in Wyoming.http://www.nols.edu/nolspro/kosher.shtml


    Thanks!

    Brian

     

  • Brian,

    We have worked with many groups that want to keep Kosher.  If you would like, please feel free to email me off list and we can talk about expectations and what has worked and what has not.  You can email me at bikerb@verizon.net.

    Adam




     

    
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  • Brian, we don’t run trips only for Jewish students but we have a number of trips that go out all kosher. The person that I know who has done the most work with this is Liz Cutler a friend from Princeton. She organized the summer wilderness trip section of a Jewish Camp called the Olin Sang Ruby Institute. They ran multi-week programs for Jewish youth that included a Rabbi and daily religious instruction. I can get you her contact info if you want to talk with her

     

    Rick

     

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  • Certainly!

    As an instructor at the North Carolina Outward Bound School, I can say we have Group Education Programs (GEPs) under our Sea Programs, which are private contract courses through schools in South Florida. There is a significant Jewish population in South Florida and I know we have been able to honor Kosher practices in the field before.

     I would suggest contacting our South Florida Program Manager for any helpful hints for food pack out. Feel free to message me off-thread for their contact information - I'd love to help out!

    I would also suggest reviewing associated rules for keeping Kosher and innovating ways for this to occur in the field. How amazing would it be to honor that tradition as a patrol/crew at a community level? Also, many food packaging has Kosher symbols on them...

    Hope this helps,


    Kevin Shon

  • You might want to consider your terminology here, and also make sure you cover the whole gamut of needs of the participants. The word Kosher refers to dietary practices, which are only a part of the observances of many Jews who keep kosher. Other needs, such as the observance of the Sabbath, should also be a part of the plan for the trip. It might be more appropriate to characterize this trip as one for Observant or Traditional Jews. 

    Sylvia


    Do many people have experience running courses for students/particiapants of Kosher needs? NOLS did one back in 2004, but I wanted to see how many other people have experience with those particular special needs.

    We are planning to run an open-enrollment course this summer for Jewish males ages 14-18 here in Wyoming.http://www.nols.edu/nolspro/kosher.shtml


    Thanks!

    Brian

     





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  • Good point Sylvia, as far as being culturally appropriate I think it would be better to rename the Web page so it is not Kosher.shtml. That shows a lack of sophistication on NOLS' part.


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  • Sylvia,

    That's a great point! We include information regarding observing the Sabbath on our website:

    "The KWLE course will be run in accordance with the Jewish calendar and observance of Jewish laws. Jon Kimchi, a NOLS graduate of a 2004 kosher course, will serve as the primary religious leader for the program, informing NOLS administration and instructors of necessary actions to respect Kashrut and Shabbat.

    NOLS will ensure that an hour is set aside each morning for T’fillah. The end of the day will also be structured to incorporate time for Mincha and Maariv, as well as daily interactive sessions focusing on the relationship between nature, Judaism & the environment prepared especially for this program. A layover day will be scheduled on July 9 for 17th day of Tammuz fast."


    Brian

     

  • You've done your homework! Nice job. 

    Sylvia


    Sylvia,

    That's a great point! We include information regarding observing the Sabbath on our website:

    "The KWLE course will be run in accordance with the Jewish calendar and observance of Jewish laws. Jon Kimchi, a NOLS graduate of a 2004 kosher course, will serve as the primary religious leader for the program, informing NOLS administration and instructors of necessary actions to respect Kashrut and Shabbat.

    NOLS will ensure that an hour is set aside each morning for T’fillah. The end of the day will also be structured to incorporate time for Mincha and Maariv, as well as daily interactive sessions focusing on the relationship between nature, Judaism & the environment prepared especially for this program. A layover day will be scheduled on July 9 for 17th day of Tammuz fast."


    Brian

     

    From: sdresser <bounce-sdresser@outdoored.com>
    Sent: 2/20/2009 1:26:19 PM

    You might want to consider your terminology here, and also make sure you cover the whole gamut of needs of the participants. The word Kosher refers to dietary practices, which are only a part of the observances of many Jews who keep kosher. Other needs, such as the observance of the Sabbath, should also be a part of the plan for the trip. It might be more appropriate to characterize this trip as one for Observant or Traditional Jews. 

    Sylvia

    On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:46 PM, bfabel_nols wrote:

    Do many people have experience running courses for students/particiapants of Kosher needs? NOLS did one back in 2004, but I wanted to see how many other people have experience with those particular special needs.

    We are planning to run an open-enrollment course this summer for Jewish males ages 14-18 here in Wyoming.http://www.nols.edu/nolspro/kosher.shtml


    Thanks!

    Brian

     





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  • My brother and I are NOLs alumni (adventure expedition 1971, before we became more orthodox).  He had a son on the kosher trip to alaska (I guess in 2003 or 4) and a daughter in the wyoming trip the following year when you were partnering with TEVA.  Now I have a 14 year old son.  I would love to give him the NOLs experience.  When I asked the alumni office if there was going to be a kosher trip this year no one responded to my request.  It's probably too late for my son for this year, but can someone keep me posted for upcoming trips in the next few years?

    Thank you,

    Cheryl

  • Hi Cheryl,
    I'll help you get your answers. Could you send an email direct to me at <drew_leemon@nols.edu>?

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Drew

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    On Jun 22, 2009, at 4:06 PM, cheryl.hirsch.ginsberg wrote:

    My brother and I are NOLs alumni (adventure expedition 1971, before we became more orthodox).  He had a son on the kosher trip to alaska (I guess in 2003 or 4) and a daughter in the wyoming trip the following year when you were partnering with TEVA.  Now I have a 14 year old son.  I would love to give him the NOLs experience.  When I asked the alumni office if there was going to be a kosher trip this year no one responded to my request.  It's probably too late for my son for this year, but can someone keep me posted for upcoming trips in the next few years?

    Thank you,

    Cheryl


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